Qwen3.8 27B on Kunlunxin P800 64GB (昆仑芯) (64GB) — VRAM, KV Cache & Throughput

Q: Does Qwen3.8 27B fit on Kunlunxin P800 64GB (昆仑芯) (64GB)?

In 4-bit (UD-Q4_K_XL) at 8,192 context, Qwen3.8 27B requires 17.56 GiB total GPU memory (16.35 GiB weights + 0.65 GiB KV cache + 0.56 GiB runtime buffers) against 60.8 GiB usable on Kunlunxin P800 64GB (昆仑芯), delivering ~57.3 tok/s decode.

Q: How much VRAM does Qwen3.8 27B need at 32K context?

At 32,768 context tokens, Qwen3.8 27B (Hybrid Linear + Full Attention) allocates 2.15 GiB for KV cache and state, bringing total 4-bit VRAM to 19.06 GiB (20.47 GB decimal).

Qwen3.8 27B (27.78B total, 27.78B active, Hybrid Linear + Full Attention) uses 16.35 GiB of 4-bit weights (UD-Q4_K_XL), requiring 17.56 GiB total at 8K context and 19.06 GiB at 32K on Kunlunxin P800 64GB (昆仑芯) (~57.3 tok/s decode).

Interactive Sizing Workbench

Full Compatibility Report →

Open-Weight Model27.78B / 27.78B

Weights & QuantizationUD-Q4_K_XL · 16.35 GiB

Context Window8,192 (8K)

Target Hardware

64 GB · 1600 GB/s

GPU Count (Tensor Parallel)

Concurrent Batch Size

KV Cache Precision

Inference Engine

System RAM Offload (CPU)0%

Fits with Safe Headroom

Measured GGUF shard size HF config.json ↗

Memory Allocation Breakdown (GiB) 17.56 GiB (18.85 GB) / 64 GiB (27%)

Model Weights: 16.35 GiB KV Cache & State: 0.65 GiB Runtime & Activation Buffers: 0.56 GiB System RAM Offload: 0 GiB

Required GPU Memory

17.56 GiB

18.85 GB (decimal)

Usable Hardware Memory

60.8 GiB

64 GB (physical)

Safe Headroom

+43.24 GiB

27% utilization

Est. Decode Throughput

~57.3 tok/s

27.78B active params

Est. Prefill Throughput

~2396 tok/s

4K Prompt TTFT: ~1710 ms

Est. Cost / 1M Tokens

$0.92

Hybrid Linear + Full Attention · Apache-2.0

Recommended Hardware for Current Configuration

Best Single GPU

Arc Pro B60 24GB (24GB)

~$599

Best Value / Used GPU

RTX 3090 (24GB)

~$750

Apple Unified Memory

Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128GB

~$1,999

Cloud From

Vast.ai · $0.19 / hr

1x RTX 3090

Production Launch Commands

llama.cpp (GGUF)

llama-server -hf unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF:UD-Q4_K_XL \
  --ctx-size 8192 -ngl 999 --flash-attn

vLLM

vllm serve Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B \
  --max-model-len 8192 --gpu-memory-utilization 0.92

Live Token Speed Simulator (TTFT ~1710ms · ~57.3 tok/s)

[Qwen3.8 27B · 17.56 GiB] allocated on target GPU. Prefill completed in TTFT window; streaming autoregressive tokens at memory-bandwidth-bound rate...

Cloud GPU Comparison & Rent-vs-Buy TCO

Verified public rates across RunPod, Vast.ai, Vultr, and DigitalOcean.

Verified: 2026-11-04

Active usage (hours / day)4 h / day

Local hardware budget ($)

Electricity rate ($/kWh)

Purchase break-even

~26.6 months

Est. local power: $4.26 / mo

Provider	Recommended Instance	Total VRAM	Hourly Rate	Monthly at Selected Hours	Billing Mode	Deploy
RunPod	1x RTX 3090 (Community Cloud)	24 GB	$0.22 / hr	$26.75 / mo	Per-second	Deploy GPU ↗
Vast.ai	1x RTX 3090 (Verified Host)	24 GB	$0.19 / hr	$22.98 / mo	Spot / On-demand	Deploy GPU ↗
*Vultr ($300 Free Credit)**	1x L40S 48GB (Dedicated Instance · $300 Credit*)	48 GB	$1.67 / hr	$203.19 / mo	Hourly	Deploy GPU ↗
Vultr Cloud GPU	1x L40S 48GB (Dedicated Instance)	48 GB	$1.67 / hr	$203.19 / mo	Hourly	Deploy GPU ↗
DigitalOcean	1x RTX 6000 Ada (Dedicated Instance)	48 GB	$1.57 / hr	$190.91 / mo	Per-second	Deploy GPU ↗

Rates reflect public listings on the verification date and fluctuate with regional inventory.

Fine-Tuning VRAM Requirements (QLoRA / LoRA / Full) — Qwen3.8 27B

QLoRA (4b) Fits with Safe Headroom

21.35 GiB

Model Weights: 16.35 GiB · Gradients + Optimizer: 3.89 GiB · Act: 1.11 GiB

Recommended GPU: Arc Pro B60 24GB (24GB)

LoRA (16b) Tight Fit (<8% Headroom)

59.33 GiB

Model Weights: 51.74 GiB · Gradients + Optimizer: 6.11 GiB · Act: 1.48 GiB

Recommended GPU: RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell (96GB)

Full BF16 Exceeds Available GPU Memory

214.73 GiB

Model Weights: 51.74 GiB · Gradients + Optimizer: 160.39 GiB · Act: 2.6 GiB

Recommended GPU: Instinct MI325X 256GB (256GB)

Engineering Sizing Notes & Optimization Playbook

Quick Hardware Verdict

Kunlunxin P800 64GB (昆仑芯) (64GB physical, 60.8 GiB usable) runs 4-bit (UD-Q4_K_XL) Qwen3.8 27B at 8K context using 17.56 GiB with 43.24 GiB of safe headroom (~57.3 tok/s single-stream decode).

KV Cache & Runtime Tuning

Qwen3.8 27B uses Hybrid Linear + Full Attention (27.78B total, 27.78B active per token). Moving from 8K to 32K context expands FP16 KV cache from 0.65 GiB to 2.15 GiB; enabling 8-bit KV cache (llama.cpp -ctk q8_0 -ctv q8_0 or vLLM --kv-cache-dtype fp8) saves 1 GiB at 32K (reducing total VRAM to 18.06 GiB).

VRAM Scaling Across Context Windows (4K to 128K, 4-bit Weights)

Model weights remain constant while attention KV cache grows with context length and batch size.

Quantization Precision & Memory Matrix — Qwen3.8 27B @ 8K

Quantization Format	Weights (GiB)	KV Cache	Total VRAM (GiB)	Decode Speed	Compatibility (Kunlunxin P800 64GB (昆仑芯))	Recommended GPU	Data Source
Native Weights (BF16 / FP8 / MXFP4 — Lossless) (BF16)	51.74 GiB	0.65 GiB	52.95 GiB (56.85 GB)	~18.8 tok/s	Fits with Safe Headroom	RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell (96GB)	Official checkpoint size
FP8 / GGUF Q8_0 (8-bit — Near-Lossless) (Q8_0)	27.05 GiB	0.65 GiB	28.26 GiB (30.34 GB)	~35.4 tok/s	Fits with Safe Headroom	Radeon AI PRO R9700 32GB (32GB)	Measured GGUF shard size
GGUF Q6_K (6-bit — High Precision) (Q6_K)	20.47 GiB	0.65 GiB	21.68 GiB (23.28 GB)	~46.3 tok/s	Fits with Safe Headroom	Arc Pro B60 24GB (24GB)	Measured GGUF shard size
GGUF Q5_K_M (5-bit — Balanced) (Q5_K_M)	18.41 GiB	0.65 GiB	19.62 GiB (21.07 GB)	~51.2 tok/s	Fits with Safe Headroom	Arc Pro B60 24GB (24GB)	Measured GGUF shard size
Q4_K_M / UD-Q4_K_XL / AWQ (4-bit — Recommended) (UD-Q4_K_XL)	16.35 GiB	0.65 GiB	17.56 GiB (18.85 GB)	~57.3 tok/s	Fits with Safe Headroom	Arc Pro B60 24GB (24GB)	Measured GGUF shard size
GGUF IQ4_XS (4.25-bit — Compact) (IQ4_XS)	13.27 GiB	0.65 GiB	14.48 GiB (15.55 GB)	~69.7 tok/s	Fits with Safe Headroom	RTX 4060 Ti 16GB (16GB)	Measured GGUF shard size
GGUF Q3_K_M (3-bit — Low VRAM) (Q3_K_M)	12.97 GiB	0.65 GiB	14.18 GiB (15.23 GB)	~71.2 tok/s	Fits with Safe Headroom	RTX 4060 Ti 16GB (16GB)	Config-derived formula
GGUF UD-Q2_K_XL (2-bit — Extreme MoE) (UD-Q2_K_XL)	9.15 GiB	0.65 GiB	10.36 GiB (11.12 GB)	~98.2 tok/s	Fits with Safe Headroom	RTX 4060 Ti 16GB (16GB)	Measured GGUF shard size

Technical Specifications & FAQ

Does Qwen3.8 27B fit on Kunlunxin P800 64GB (昆仑芯) (64GB)?

In 4-bit (UD-Q4_K_XL) at 8,192 context, Qwen3.8 27B requires 17.56 GiB total GPU memory (16.35 GiB weights + 0.65 GiB KV cache + 0.56 GiB runtime buffers) against 60.8 GiB usable on Kunlunxin P800 64GB (昆仑芯), delivering ~57.3 tok/s decode.

How much VRAM does Qwen3.8 27B need at 32K context?

At 32,768 context tokens, Qwen3.8 27B (Hybrid Linear + Full Attention) allocates 2.15 GiB for KV cache and state, bringing total 4-bit VRAM to 19.06 GiB (20.47 GB decimal).

Evaluate This Model on Other GPUs

RTX 3060 12GB (12GB)RTX 4060 Ti 16GB (16GB)RTX 4070 Ti Super (16GB)RTX 4080 Super (16GB)RTX 5070 12GB (12GB)RTX 5070 Ti (16GB)RTX 5080 (16GB)RTX 3090 (24GB)RTX 4090 (24GB)RTX 4090 D (24GB)RTX 5090 (32GB)RTX 5090 D (32GB)RTX A6000 (48GB)RTX 6000 Ada (48GB)RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell (96GB)DGX Spark (GB10 128GB) (128GB)L4 24GB (24GB)A40 48GB (48GB)L20 48GB (48GB)L40S 48GB (48GB)A800 80GB SXM (80GB)A100 80GB SXM (80GB)H800 80GB SXM (80GB)H100 80GB SXM (80GB)H20 96GB HBM3 (96GB)H20 141GB HBM3e (141GB)H200 141GB SXM (141GB)B200 180GB (180GB)B300 288GB Blackwell Ultra (288GB)Ascend 910B 64GB (昇腾) (64GB)Ascend 910C 128GB (昇腾) (128GB)Atlas 300I Duo 96GB (310P) (96GB)MLU590 80GB (寒武纪思元) (80GB)DCU K100-AI 64GB (海光深算) (64GB)MetaX C500 64GB (沐曦曦云) (64GB)MTT S4000 48GB (摩尔线程) (48GB)Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24GB (24GB)Radeon AI PRO R9700 32GB (32GB)Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128GB (128GB)Instinct MI300X 192GB (192GB)Instinct MI325X 256GB (256GB)Instinct MI355X 288GB (288GB)Arc Pro B60 24GB (24GB)Gaudi 3 128GB HBM2e (128GB)Mac mini M4 Pro 64GB (64GB)MacBook Pro M4 Max 128GB (128GB)Mac Studio M4 Ultra 256GB (256GB)Mac Studio M3 Ultra 512GB (512GB)

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